tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post5905976841676065609..comments2024-03-03T20:15:57.737+08:00Comments on model ships in the cinema: Tora Tora Tora 1970munghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11833483639783575804noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-44395665965222906752022-05-20T23:07:43.097+08:002022-05-20T23:07:43.097+08:00Sorry but not at any time did I believe the ships ...Sorry but not at any time did I believe the ships were anything other than scale models. They should have spent more time weathering the models and detailing the areas on shore around them. The lack of realism of the areas ashore around the anchored fleet really detracted from the film sequences. It is even more noticeable in the still photos. My son has made more detailed dioramas than that, for a hell of a lot less money.<br /><br />I personally think, In harms Way did a better job.Toryu Tsurugihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17366904548389259816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-23401119660107796352022-01-11T12:58:20.946+08:002022-01-11T12:58:20.946+08:00There were only 3 Japanese cruisers on the Pearl H...There were only 3 Japanese cruisers on the Pearl Harbor attack. The 2 heavy cruisers had distinctive silhouettes: All 4 gun turrets were mounted forward so that the rear/stern end was reserved for aircraft operations. The last was a light cruiser, 3 smoke funnels, but only a single gun forward which looked more like a destroyer's gun. I didn't see this in any of the models. <br />One other point I have seen in movies such as this: The use of American aircraft carriers to fill in for Japanese ones. These are the real ones, used to show planes flying off them. These are very recognizably American with their big islands and lack of distinctive funnel structures among other things. While I love to see the miniatures, it so important to get it right. A period film has to have all the details right or it looses its effect and therefore, its respect.<br />Thanks for the blog. 1st time I've seen it. It is great giving some many background details!!!IJN Watcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08032058385152090973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-8651997158488636122021-05-28T01:35:46.399+08:002021-05-28T01:35:46.399+08:00Fab piece. I visited the location of the tank in 2...Fab piece. I visited the location of the tank in 2013..its a car park now sadly but it still felt like sacred ground..the surrounding trees and hills still look much the same.Voyage to the bottom of the sea surface shots were shot here too again by Abbot and crew. Malibu state park.Richard Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14506570774390107322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-50586566652102455922013-04-18T15:37:12.000+08:002013-04-18T15:37:12.000+08:00As always, I congratulate you on fine work and res...As always, I congratulate you on fine work and research in this exciting field. THE BEDFORD INCIDENT remains my all time fave Cold War thriller, bar none. Riveting from start to finish.....and what a finish!!!! A masterpiece in every respect.<br>Wally Veevers supervised the model effects, with long time Shepperton fx technicians such as Bob Cuff and Peter Harman also involved. I have a couple of behind the scenes pics of the models in my huge Shepperton Studios special effects retrospective on my blog.<br><br>Excellent work here too on your TORA blog. Another terrific film that's as good today as it was when I first saw it in 70mm back in 1970. Wonderful model work, especially the night storm shots at sea, however it was the full scale on set physical effects by A.D Flowers that really stole the show for me. Shattering, terrifying (think blown up P40 with runaway propellor almost killing stuntmen on airfield attack sequence...OMG!! Still makes my hair stand on end that one after 30 viewings over the years). Terrific score by Jerry Goldsmith too - and like you, I'd love to see the deleted scenes and extra miniature footage.<br><br>Keep up the great work.<br><br>NZPeteNZPetehttp://www.nzpetesmatteshot.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-85277985410036314912013-04-19T05:47:12.000+08:002013-04-19T05:47:12.000+08:00Hello Roger,Unfortunately the photos you mention a...Hello Roger,<br><br>Unfortunately the photos you mention are from the stills on the special features of the DVD and they are made that small. They don't even fill a normal frame, they are displayed on a background at that ridiculously small size.number1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-3911714622600548212013-04-19T06:38:05.000+08:002013-04-19T06:38:05.000+08:00Hello NZPete,Thanks for the encouragement. If I co...Hello NZPete,<br><br>Thanks for the encouragement. If I could manage to achieve but a quarter of the depth of knowledge, detailed research and enthusiasm you manage to convey on your site I would be very happy.number1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-82403446260472710462013-04-10T06:23:11.000+08:002013-04-10T06:23:11.000+08:00What a fantastic blog post about an awesome film, ...What a fantastic blog post about an awesome film, thank you! Just to nitpick, but could the behind-the-scenes images be larger please? There are many I've not seen before (and I have both Abbott's Wire, Tape etc. and the ASC Treasury).Roger Toddhttp://mctoddanimates.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-28710608384112585602013-05-24T11:49:59.000+08:002013-05-24T11:49:59.000+08:00Thank you for such a wonderful blog! Love the old ...Thank you for such a wonderful blog! Love the old days of movie making with models, matte paintings and all the other handmade FX.Uli G.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-69544054638739866892013-11-17T05:21:52.000+08:002013-11-17T05:21:52.000+08:00In 1972 or 1973 20the Century Fox studios held an ...In 1972 or 1973 20the Century Fox studios held an auction. Among the props sold were some of the replica Japanese airplanes (heavily modified US aircraft made to look like Zeros and Zekes) and some of the model ships created for TORA TORA TORA. I was 15 at the time and I was amazed at the size and the detail of those ships. I wanted one so badly but my mother reminded me that it was the buyers responsibility to remove them from the studio and that her 1968 Mustang was incapable of towing a 30' Japanese aircraft carrier. I wonder who bought them and where they are now.Dave Hoodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-47304029372239260002014-09-10T03:58:24.000+08:002014-09-10T03:58:24.000+08:00I love this! I remember seeing a report on TV abou...I love this! I remember seeing a report on TV about the Fox sale @Dave Hood and one of the pictures here confirms what I remember, the reporter standing on an aircraft carrier model.artfrankmiaminoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-54390522674345864922015-01-18T17:39:49.000+08:002015-01-18T17:39:49.000+08:00Great pictures and site! Hate to nitpick, but the ...Great pictures and site! Hate to nitpick, but the Arizona did not capsize, the Oklahoma did.Tim Slocumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-63588881745064560432015-01-21T15:48:35.000+08:002015-01-21T15:48:35.000+08:00Thanks for spotting the error, I have corrected th...Thanks for spotting the error, I have corrected the mistake in the text.number1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-77555194229974972292015-05-02T15:29:50.000+08:002015-05-02T15:29:50.000+08:00I enjoyed it all...do you have any photos of in sh...I enjoyed it all...do you have any photos of in shop, wood structuresLou mc murrrayhttp://Samenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-74971909491116593622015-04-05T16:21:34.000+08:002015-04-05T16:21:34.000+08:00do have anymore info as to the locations or fate o...do have anymore info as to the locations or fate of the models used in tora tora tora. i found your info in part one very useful.don moorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-64895152586736272682015-05-10T17:50:02.000+08:002015-05-10T17:50:02.000+08:00All the photos I have are found in the post, I don...All the photos I have are found in the post, I don't hold anything back. I wouldn't mind seeing some construction photos myself, but they are very hard to come by, I dont think anybody thought at the time that it was worth documenting the model build, though they definitely documented the shooting process.number1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-37281448972319281402015-05-09T10:43:11.000+08:002015-05-09T10:43:11.000+08:00GREAT site! :-)I design cardstock model ships and...GREAT site! :-)<br><br>I design cardstock model ships and have done the Shigure (destroyer) and Jintsu (light cruiser). Photos are on my CoatneyHistory webpage. Others are on my tripod.com webpage.<br><br>There was no Japanese heavy cruiser with 3 funnels. :-)Lou Coatney (nom de guerre: Black Arrow)http://www.CoatneyHistory.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-50323711847152831582016-03-20T01:35:37.000+08:002016-03-20T01:35:37.000+08:00A lot of these models were destroyed in a lot fire...A lot of these models were destroyed in a lot fire in the '80sStephen Phenownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-58959728393234703262016-03-22T13:56:18.000+08:002016-03-22T13:56:18.000+08:00I have read a few articles about the disposition o...I have read a few articles about the disposition of Hollywood props and miniatures. Many of these models were sold for 10% or less than what it cost to make them. Some are in museums and i woul dguess some are in private hands. Incredible work and an incredible movie. If only the movie Midway had been as good.maxsmodelsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-40478142633853782472016-05-01T20:09:27.000+08:002016-05-01T20:09:27.000+08:00Like most of these comments incredible models made...Like most of these comments incredible models made for this film saw it in 70mm at time of release at age 16 with high school girlfriend who I married 38 years ago bought remastered Blu Ray that we still watch todaycliffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-59778009627254080742016-03-20T16:03:55.000+08:002016-03-20T16:03:55.000+08:00Interestingly, the Myoko-class CAs were originally...Interestingly, the Myoko-class CAs were originally designed with three funnels.Matthewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-8116836797639856262016-03-20T15:00:35.000+08:002016-03-20T15:00:35.000+08:00Fascinating.Fascinating.Henry Siirotinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-50553173669248233902016-03-20T22:12:36.000+08:002016-03-20T22:12:36.000+08:00In today's standard It will be easy to make a ...In today's standard It will be easy to make a historical movie like this. Yet Tora Tora Tora is still the best. The Pearl Harbor movie of Jerry Brucheimer is a crap!! I hope Speilberg do a film about the attack which is accurately done and even the battle of midway perhaps.Joetinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-12361039764779951332016-08-03T08:33:36.000+08:002016-08-03T08:33:36.000+08:00I first viewed Tora, Tora Tora the second night af...I first viewed Tora, Tora Tora the second night after it's premier with my father and brother in Honolulu, Hawaii, it seemed like the whole theater audience was crying, sniffling and walking out and back in through the entire movie. Maybe the ship scenes with the models were a little hokie by today's standards, but in that audience that night they were as real as any 9 y/o could imagine. My father took my brother and I to the USS Arizona Memorial two days afterward, in the several times I've been back to the Memorial I've never spent as much time on it as that first time in 1970.Jay in Californianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-47881379658702956162017-03-01T11:52:21.000+08:002017-03-01T11:52:21.000+08:00A few of the Japanese ship models are in the recen...A few of the Japanese ship models are in the recently closed Armed Forces History Museum located in Largo Florida off of Ulmerton Road. Unfortunately the museum could not make a go of it financially and closed at the end of January 2017.Jeff Hahnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4601090335485436846.post-56818225170000337752018-03-05T03:17:36.000+08:002018-03-05T03:17:36.000+08:00Spotted the 40" long filming miniature of the...Spotted the 40" long filming miniature of the Japanese sub that was sunk in the movie for sale on the “Profiles in History” “Icons of Hollywood” December 15-16 2011 auction:<br><br>https://www.profilesinhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Icons-of-Hollywood-Full-Catalog.pdf<br><br>p274 910. SUBMARINE FILMING MINIATURE FROM TORA! TORA! TORA!<br><br>"Authentically-detailed sculpted wooden and metal miniature model of a Japanese submarine, 40 in. x 11 ½ in., which appears near the beginning of Tora! Tora! Tora!, the highly authentic film treatment of the Japanese invasion of Pearl Harbor. We see the submarine crew, far ahead of the general invasion force, attempt to follow an American destroyer into the harbor, only to be shelled and depth-charged to the bottom. All exterior submarine shots are of this miniature, as no actual version was required. Some light wear and handling, though essentially complete and is an impressive display piece. $2,000 – $3,000"<br><br>Port side image shown. By the way it was a "Type A K?-hy?teki class" 2 man mini-sub armed with 2 torpedoes:<br><br>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_A_K%C5%8D-hy%C5%8Dteki-class_submarineHenry Geenoreply@blogger.com